@TheTweetofGod: Mean people suck
@southboundcat: Mean people? Cut us some slack, God. Boston massacre was not
done by mean people. EVIL people.
@JessicaLeBaron:
It was done by people. You and I are people. Evil is a myth like god. It's a
perspective. Just a thought.
Well Jess, here are my thoughts. It was done by two evil punks, certainly nobody like me.
To acknowledge that evil doesn’t exist is to disdain all that is good. If there is no
evil, there can not be good. And without
good or bad, right or wrong, all issues that pertain to morals becomes
mute. One would have to question why do
people do good things? To save the life of a drowning stranger is totally
unreasonable. To lay one’s life down for a friend is stupid. What firemen and
police officers do daily is not rational. Yet, what they do is good. And when the world found itself in the throes
of slavery and Nazism there were people who risked their own liberty and lives
to save others caught the wake of …well, evil. Can you truly say their unselfish actions
were not good and that slavery and Nazism were not evil?
In nature if one animal kills another, it does so for food
or preservation whether that is to protect its own life or for a continuation
of a gene-pool and thus survival. Motives
in nature can be very familiar human emotions - hunger, fear, etc… - but
actions are not driven by any sense of right and wrong. In nature there is no moral standard. There
is no good or evil. The law of nature is be strong or die. However, this is not the case for people.
Moral standards preserve society for better or for worse
particularly when the standard is not objectively based. Wisdom is recognizing the source of what is
right and wrong. Don’t confuse morality
with what you like or don’t like. I hate
frozen peas. It is not a virtuous issue.
Let’s say that I like to torture cats. Without evil, and
therefore good, this can’t be a moral issue. However, I think we know there
just isn’t something that sits right with torturing little furry animals. But the fact that I like to torture cats does
not make it right and certainly does not offer any defense for the behavior. I could reason that I am smarter than the
average cat and more evolved than most cats (I know this is so human-centric of
me) so I have every right deem that cat torture is okay.
I can go on to claim that it is in my nature, it is the very
essence of what makes me human to torture cats. But this still falls short of a
making cat torture acceptable. If ten or ten thousand people agreed with me to
accept cat torture, this still does not make cat torture an acceptable
practice. It does however illustrate the danger of determining what is right or
wrong based on the behaviors of a few or the behavior of the powerful, or the
edicts and whims of the mighty. Even if I could convince 99% of the people that
cat torture promoted the greater cause of humanity, cat torture would still be
wrong. Why?
If evil does not exist then cat torture is neither wrong nor
right. And if evil doesn’t exist you can’t judge me for performing cat torture,
even on your cat. Because to judge is to
cast some form of opinion or evaluation. You could only say you like or not
like cat torture. If something bothers you about cat torture you can’t say it
is wrong. You can’t declare it as
unacceptable. Cat torture therefore
would be as innocuous as a preference for fresh or frozen peas.
One who doesn’t believe in evil might argue that no one has
the right to judge. That seems logical because to judge when you have no right
to judge would be bad. And if something is bad, that would lead one to think
there is a “right”. But of course, that establishes
the existence of evil. How can that be?
Honestly I think those who argue that evil doesn’t exist are
making a desperate argument that there is no God.
The standard nonsense argument goes: If there is evil, there must not be a God, for
why would God let evil prevail? Isn’t he
all powerful? Either God is not all
powerful or God must not exist. Of
course, we can now get into long winded debates about free will and stuff, but
I ask four questions?
- If a cat kills a cat is that evil?
- If I kill a cat is that evil?
- If a cat kills a person is that evil?
- If a person kills a person is that evil?
The honest answers find us pondering morality. When man is involved the issues arise. If nature is the perpetrator the actions are
not evil. Since God is neither nature or man, God is not the perpetrator of
evil. I say man is the one who perpetuates
evil. This does not logically lead to
the conclusion that God doesn’t exist, but begs the question why when man is
involved do questions of morality arise?
The next reason to deny evil to deny God has to do with what
is acceptable and accepted behavior. Without good and evil there is no
difference between the two concepts. Between 1501 and 1865 American slave trade
was accepted. That did not make it acceptable. It was never acceptable,
nevertheless it was accepted practiced.
Is it obvious that the practice was accepted, but not
acceptable? Is it just as obvious that to kill a woman because she brings shame
to her Muslim father and brothers is accepted but hardly acceptable? Why the difference? If you acknowledge the difference you must
acknowledge an absolute truth, an objective morality. That
makes things right and wrong, good and evil.
And if objective morality exists then there must be a source.
That source is God.
Mean boys did not bomb the victims in Boston and terrorize the rest of us. They are evil. What was done was evil. Unexplainable evil. If you can’t comprehend the existence of evil
and God, beware. Mean boys might try eat
your cat for dinner tonight and good people will not come to its rescue.
Well, that is my perceptive. Just a thought that could not
be wrapped up in 140 Twitter characters.
And if you are some bloody atheist I have not said you can’t be moral. I
know many theists who are immoral.